Roman Catholic cardinals have their new pope...

The smoke is white; the votes were counted and a new pope got enough votes to mount the throne. Who is it?

My bets were on E. Michael Jones, but alas, it's only a humble Jesuit.

And I like what I'm reading about him.

Tim Bayly

Tim serves Clearnote Church, Bloomington, Indiana. He and Mary Lee have five children and fifteen grandchildren.

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Breitbart News reports that in "a joint statement by Latin American church leaders but presented by Francis in 2007, the leaders stated, 'we should commit ourselves to ‘eucharistic coherence,’ that is, we should be conscious that people cannot receive holy communion and at the same time act or speak against the commandments, in particular when abortions, euthanasia, and other serious crimes against life and family are facilitated. This responsibility applies particularly to legislators, governors, and health professionals.' ”

It is going to be Veddy Interestink to see if Francis will do what JP2 refused to do, admitting pro-abortion politicians to his communion when he visited New York some years ago.  What a travesty!!

All across America, Roman bishops have shilly shallied on this, and how can they not, when Blessed John Paul offered communion to Pelosi, Guliani, Kerry, and other pro-abortion members of Congress on that occasion. What Roman bishop in America is going to risk declaring himself holier than the Holy Father on that matter of ecclesiastical discipline.

Gak gak.

Pope Francis on sodomite marriage:

"Let’s not be naïve, we’re not talking about a simple political battle; it is a destructive pretension against the plan of God. We are not talking about a mere bill, but rather a machination of the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God."

I think a Presbyterian can live with that thought. 

@David Gray: Francis became "notorious" in Argentina for the things he said in the quotes above. How many evangelical leaders in Wheaton or Colorado Springs or Manhattan are notorious for the same reasons?  

Thank God for those notorious brothers in Bloomington and Toledo!

Interesting in light of the other thread, "These are not normal men..."

"...donning the simple white cassock but declining to wear the ermine-trimmed red cape known as the mozzetta, which was left hanging on the wardrobe in the Room of Tears.

To Vatican officials who offered him an elaborate gold pectoral cross to wear around the neck, he said he’d prefer to keep his very simple cross that he’s worn as a bishop. He accepted the congratulations of cardinals not seated on a traditional throne-like chair, but standing up and greeting them one by one."

http://www.johnthavis.com/pope-francis-first-24-hours-doing-it-his-way

Dear Mark,

There are positive signs about this pope, humble style of dress and condemnation of homosexuality and homosexual marriage included.

It's striking that the pope himself can make a statement perceived as critical of curial/cardinal ostentation by dressing down yet no one accuses him of judging unfairly. But let anyone else make the point and supporters of Roman ecclesiology and soteriology are up in arms. 

We live in a world of double standards when it comes to Rome. The pope can pray to Mary and we avert our eyes. But let the president pray to Allah and we froth at the mouth. Rape--homosexual RAPE--is terrible, except of course when it's practiced by men of the cloth. Let a teacher do it, protected by the principal, and we'll have them both in prison. Let a priest do it and we're so very silent.

The truth is as Luther said of himself, that the pope we should fear is the pope who resides in each of our breasts. We all are wealth-and-ceremony loving Roman Catholics in our sinful heart of hearts, just as we are all health and wealth gospelers when it comes to carrying the Cross of Christ.

Love in Christ,

David

Regarding Pope Francis, Tim wrote:

>>And I like what I'm reading about him.

Me, too. I'm also praying that his ministry to the world's 1.2 billion Roman Catholics will be fruitful. And it wouldn't surprise me if there are things that he can teach other Christians as well.

I had a pastor once who said that modern evangelicals are committed to embracing all of Rome's errors and rejecting all of its virtues.

Another straw in the papal wind, this time reported originally by a nun who blogs in connection with the US Catholic Bishop's Conference:

"Instructions for what to wear for upcoming meetings suggest that  the simple style he [i.e. Francis] is known for continues. Today, the cardinals were advised to wear the  black house cassock rather than the more formal red choir robes with white surplice."

It's the latter vestments which have been the subject of comment and can be seen in the photographs on this blog lately. Then there was this on another blog:

And lastly, to use one of Fr Tom Rosica's legion of money-quotes over the course of this transition, "there is the all-important matter of the shoes." 

Indeed, it's already been remarked upon that PF, or F1 – we haven't figured out the shorthand just yet – has not taken up the red or brown kicks of his post-Conciliar predecessors, which were ready in a variety of sizes in the "Room of Tears," but kept to a black set.

Then again, shirking the trappings has seemed to become an early leitmotif of this reign. Beyond turning down the Mercedes, the motorcade and the ermine mozzetta to appear in the simple white house cassock, the new Pope likewise declined to use one of the bejeweled pectoral crosses from the Papal Sacristy that were set out for whoever emerged from the Conclave, choosing to retain the simple silver cross he wore into his election, and his usual, unadorned silver ring with it. (At yesterday's Mass, Francis likewise opted against a miter from the Vatican collection in favor of his preferred one from home – a minimalist headpiece, and notably one trimmed and lined in brown: the traditional color associated with the Franciscans.)

Back to the shoes, though, there's apparently a story to them – Vatican Radio reported that the then-cardinal's friends, seeing that the pair he was wearing "were not in very good shape," bought him a new pair as he prepared to leave for the Conclave. 

So it seems, the barely month-old gift's still being put to good use... just now, in the sight of the world.

As before, these are only straws. But, they're blowing in the same direction, which is going to make things interesting.

Yes, what we're seeing is good. But we have the little matter of the immediate visit to pray at a particular Virgin Mary shrine. He's known for his devotion to Mary. Which is idolatry.

And then you have the little matter of the monetization of salvation which, outside these United States, is the face of Roman Catholicisim. But we'll see. If God brought Communism down, He might do the same with Rome. What joy there would be if these heretics repented of their denial of the Biblical doctrine of justification?

I find myself wondering what my Gordon-Conwell friends, Scott Hahn and Marcus Grodi, would do then? Convert to the Russian mafia otherwise known as the Russian Orthodox Church?

Love,

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