Fight the good fight...

Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. - 1Timothy 1:20

Edwards once said that, during his studies at Yale, he learned more from arguing than reading.

Today, argument is a dirty word, especially among Christians. To disagree requires a man to have a chest and narcissists have no chests. So they spill their FB updates agreeing with one another about everything but politics, and their political disagreements are mind-numbing with both sides parroting lines they heard from some woman teacher who wished she could get every boy in her classroom on Ritalin. "Don't be mean! That's not nice! If someone told you that you were wrong, how would that make you feel?" And so on.

On then with the arguments! Probing, parrying, thrusting expose weaknesses and strengths so men may grow.

If you want children who are able to think and stand against the narcissists persecuting the Church today, argue at your dinner table. Improve the time!

If you want to train men for the ministry, keep your classes small and use tutors so you're set up for arguments.

If you've ever skied, you know there's no getting better without falling. Same with knowing and embracing God's Truth so we may have the fruit of Church unity and peace. A left jab to the chin is extremely helpful.

But here we are, on the ropes clinging to one another, with refs who call a foul if anyone throws a punch! What is required are refs who pull the men apart, push them back into the middle of the ring, and command "Fight on!"

Fact is, men who can't or won't argue can't and don't counsel, teach, or preach because they're ignorant of man's errors. And therefore, ignorant of God's Truth, also. They never correct, admonish, or rebuke because they're too afraid of pain to parry and thrust.

Tim Bayly

Tim serves Clearnote Church, Bloomington, Indiana. He and Mary Lee have five children and fifteen grandchildren.


"In fencing, the riposte (French for "retort") is an offensive action with the intent of hitting one's opponent, made by the fencer who has just parried an attack.

In everyday language, a riposte is synonymous with a retort and describes a quick and witty reply to an argument or an insult." Wikipedia

Dear Tim,

I learned this word today. Riposte is the term for the attack that follows a successful parry. May we all be manly fighters. And skilled. Thanks for the instruction.



Unfortunately, the prevailing propaganda is that arguing is taboo because it offends the almighty Relationship (one of the gods in our culture's Pantheon). Poppycock! Some of my best friendships with both believers and non-believers have been born out of arguments.

Out of curiosity (and I mean that), how are the verse and post related? I'm guessing it has to do with the connection between arguing and church discipline as both being manly ways to fight the good fight.


>>I'm guessing it has to do with the connection between arguing and church discipline as both being manly ways to fight the good fight.

Mainly, dear brother.


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