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by David and Tim Bayly on April 28, 2012 - 10:21am

When William T. Manning, a former Bishop of New York, was asked whether salvation could be found outside the Episcopal Church, he replied, "Perhaps so, but no gentleman would care to avail himself of it."

- Jervis Anderson, Profiles, "STANDING OUT THERE ON THE ISSUES,"The New Yorker, April 28, 1986, pp. 46 ff.

 

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Submitted by Ross on April 29, 2012 - 12:35pm

In the New Zealand of the 1950s it was said that Anglican (Episcopal) churches were made up of doctors and lawyers; Presbyterian churches of engineers and accountants; Baptist churches of office workers; and Pentecostal churches of factory workers. The latter two movements have moved somewhat up the social spectrum since then (we use to joke that a Baptist is only a Pentecostal with a decent late-model car), but still show their social history in other ways.

Submitted by Bev C on May 2, 2012 - 1:33am

At Reformed Forum Podcasts Andrew Moody interviewed Derek Thomas who had some interesting observations of differences as one looks at the PCA, ARP and OP.

http://reformedforum.org/podcasts/rfs19/ at minute 35.00 to 41:29

Noting the differences between the denominations he says “…the PCA is like a teenager trying to find its identity and the ARP is an adult that’s comfortable in its own skin...”

As for the OP, he says they do not have an identity crisis “...they know their identity and impose a measure of guilt on everyone else...”

A bit later he comments that “a sociological study would be fascinating” pointing to economic status differences in the PCA versus the OPC and the different ethos that it creates including how it affects the kinds of things preached on.

Interesting observations from Dr. Thomas.

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