What if this kind of man had walked in on Jerry Sandusky...

The man who would stop something like this would be a janitor or someone invisible to the higher ups and who had nothing to lose but his good conscience. This man would say, like a truly sane man, "Aw..hell no!" and proceed to beat Mr. Sandusky senseless with his mop.

Interesting that you mention janitors. Victim No. 8 (who was never identified; read on to learn why), was observed by two janitors independently of one another while Victim No. 8 was being sexually assaulted by Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Building in the fall of 2000. When Jim, one of the witnessing janitors, reported to Ronald, the other witness, what Jim had seen, "Jim was shaking and he and his fellow employees feared Jim might have a heart attack."

The grand jury report continues:

"Petrosky [the second witness] testified that all the employees working that night except Wtherite were relatively new employees. In discussions held later that shift, the employees expressed concern that if they reported what Jim had seen, they might lose their jobs. Jim's fellow employees had him tell Jay Witherite [the janitorial supervisor] what he had seen.

"Jay Witherite ... testified that Jim was 'very emotionally upset', 'very distraught", to the point that Witherite 'was afraid the man was going to have a heart attack or something the way he was acting.' Jim reported to Witherite that he had observed Sandusky [details ommited here] in the showers. Witherite tried to calm Jim, who was cursing and remained upset throughout the shift.

[Snip several parapgraphs]

"Jim was a temporary employee at the Lasch Building, working there for approximately 8 months. No report was ever made by Jim Calhoun. Jim presently suffers from dementia, resides in a nursing home and is incompetent to testify. Victim 8's identity is unknown." [Grand jury report ends here]

How many other victims' identities are unknown because the full number of Sandusky's victims is also unknown?

Mike Madden, a radio personality with WXDX-FM (105.9) reported ~last April~ that a grand jury had been investigating Sandusky after a 15 year old boy lodged a complaint in 2009. Now additional journalists are digging into the wide-spread rumors of fetid goings-on between Sandusky, the charity he heads (Second Mile Foundation), the 10-12 year old boys Sandusky seduced via his connections with them in this foundation's work, and rich donors to Penn State's football powerhouse. You'll want to put on your radiation-protective gear before the results of these investigations begin to break.

There are two outrages here -- one of them sopping wet with the yuck factor, the other as clean as the exterior of whitewashed sarcophagi. The yucky outrage is Sandusky and what he has been doing for decades, to judge by what the grand jury report is pointing to. The second outrage -- the "clean" one -- is the idolatry surrounding Joe Paterno and the multi-million dollar enterprise that is Penn State football.

This latter idolatry manifestly includes among its worshipers all the power-players at Penn State, including Paterno, who knew over a decade ago what was going on and had to be involved in brokering Sandusky's retirement (at the advanced age of 55!!) in exchange for covering up the results of a Penn State University police investigation into Sandusky's corruption of young boys (the Univeristy police investigation is detailed in the grand jury report).

Included among the leadership of the idolatry is the administration of Penn State, all the way up to its president. Funding the idolatry are the rich donors to the Penn State football powerhouse. And filling the stadiums to worship the idol are the legions of Penn State students and alumns, some of whom rioted when the Penn State Trustees finally did what the Penn State administration could never bring itself to do, viz. topple the idol in its sanctuary.

Uh, if the analogy holds then the "real man" who interrupted the robbery and got shot would get raped in the shower...or groped...or fondled, whatever. Do "real men" get raped in the Bayly universe?

Norm, you're confused. Both stories had victims. Only one story had a hero, sadly. In the "real man" story the victim was the clerk, if you need to find someone analogous to the victims of Penn State. The point is that in the "real man" story, someone did what was right. That man didn't exist at Penn State. And your last sentence was just pitiful.

What our hosts note, and this; McQueary happens to be as big as the football players he coaches, and is 30 years younger than the offender. Pardon my mistake in the second comment; the man had nothing to fear from Sandusky, and should have beaten him unconscious or helped him to assume room temperature.

This summer at playgroup, a little girl was suspended from the monkey bars and was going to drop to the ground several feet below. She was screaming and crying and kicking helplessly. A six-year-old boy (Titus) from our church ran over as fast as he could, stood directly underneath her and put out his arms as if to catch her. Now, this girl had many pounds on this little boy and proceeded to flatten him into the mulch when she fell on him. He stood up, brushed himself off, and went back to his play with the other boys. It was beautiful!

"In Michigan anyway"

In Texas too. And, things other than guns are allowed.

Ha ha...of course I was talking about the two main stories and not the comments..
There's one in every group I guess...it's usually me!

;P

It's not a matter of how big or strong you happen to be. It's not about getting into a fight or not. It's about protecting the victim - if you can do that best by running for help, run for help; if you do that best by driving your wheelchair into the guy's shins, do that. "Real men" don't always "fight" or "not fight," they protect, in whatever manner they have to do so.

It appears that I misjudged Mike McQueary. The latest news is that he says that he did not walk away from the incident but rather made sure that it ceased.

The exact details were not given but he was not the coward that I thought him to be based on initial reports in the news.