Rob Bell's no servant of God; he's a peddler of postures hip and kool...

Jesus answered and said to them, “Do not grumble among yourselves. No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day" (John 6:43,44).

(Jesus said) "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea. If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell, into the unquenchable fire, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched" (Mark 9:42-44).

(Jesus said) "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28).

(Tim) We've warned against Rob Bell before here and here. That second link is a post titled, "Just one more savage wolf..." alluding to this warning to the Ephesian elders by the Apostle Paul:

Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be on the alert, remembering that night and day for a period of three years I did not cease to admonish each one with tears. (Acts 20:28-31)

If possible, that savage wolf, Rob Bell, becomes bolder in his wickedness. Watch this video:

 

 

 

NOTE: I've completely changed this post since first publishing it. Originally, this video was posted here on Baylyblog with a link to a post by Justin Taylor dealing with the video and Bell's forthcoming book. I wrote here taking Taylor to task for hemming and hawing in his warnings about Bell. I said Taylor should have been forthright and sounded a clear note from his bugle.

Sadly, since then Taylor pulled the text of 2Cor. 11:14,15 from his post:

No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds. (2 Corinthians 11:14,15).

Taylor also pulled the sentence of his post that I'd objected to that began, "It seems to me...."

Sadly, he didn't pull the sentence in order to be more forthright! Rather he pulled it because of people's opposition to his condemnation of Bell; and now with these changes, Taylor appears more earnest and gentle and hesitant and mincing. Addressing a false shepherd, he appears as the opposite of the Apostle Paul or the Apostle Peter or the Apostle John or John the Baptist or Jude or Calvin or Luther or Knox or Jesus.

We live in an evil day when clothing, eyeglasses, tunes, images, and body posture are our theology and doctrinal debate is nonexistent. Truth isn't clear and known and embraced--it shimmers and is felt. So my warning to souls reading this blog today is to flee from Rob Bell. But also flee all those who can't bring themselves ever to see an enemy of God and to blow a clear note on their horn against him, nor to use their disciplinary rod and staff to pull their sheep back from danger--in this case, the wolf's depredations.

Flee any shepherd who's hip. That's what he's selling and you don't want it. It's the terminal disease of postmoderns. You and your wife and children need a pastor who's earnest, zealous, hard-edged, bold, and doctrinally Biblical--everything pomos hate.

You need a man who loves his sheep.

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I'm sorry, I try not to be the first to comment, but really, this is sick and perverse. I've just had a conversation with my elder's wife about the horrors of Carolyn Custis James' false teaching so I'm already not inclined to give another false teacher the benefit of the doubt.

Inconsistencies and absurdities? Really? Has Bell never heard of the concept of paradox? Of mystery?

He's right, we don't actually know whether or not Gandhi repented at the end of his life - it's possible. Oscar Wilde did, why not Gandhi? But really, that's not his point, is it? Because there's no need for repentance in Bell's world.

There is no need for repentance in Bell's world. There's only velvet and warm fuzzies and doing something new when church just "doesn't work' for you any longer.

I think I'm going to be sick.

Someone recently referred me to a band that all the kids are raving about, ending their endorsement with "...and they're Christians!"

I listened to the recommended music, which was "spiritual" in certain sense, but not particularly Christian - all the major world religions could legitimately lay claim to their lyrics.

Then it occurred to me: the antithesis is all but gone. To simply use the word "Christian" to describe one's music, art, schooling, politics, marriage, etc. is to say to all those who might question it's theological integrity or orthodoxy - "Hands off! I said I was a Christian!"

Back in the late 80's, I read Evangelical Essentials by John Stott and and Edwards fellow, the latter being the liberal, non-evangelical, representative in the debate. Unfortunately, Stott fumbled the ball on Hell then (being noncommittal either way) and in doing so, opened the door for many, many other "evangelicals" to do the same.

Bell is just eating the bitter fruit his fathers have left for him. This is a challenge for all of us to watch our doctrine.

I read Taylor's words differently. I didn't see it as a hedge, but rather as a set-up for what he was about to say - using the phrase, "It seems to me that the Apostle Paul's words here are not irrelevant?" as a tee to place the ball.

Based upon the comments, it appears clear to me that readers saw this as a direct attack on Bell. Taylor seems to confirm this when he posts in his comment section that "[He] stand[s] by his post." (One could argue that this post was merely a response to a statement that he should read the book before commenting and not a response to other comments. I think it was both.)

With that said, I think Taylor should take out the paragraph about the integrity of openly teaching false doctrine.

Hell's Bell(s).

"Will only a select few make it to heaven?"

No, only a select MULTITUDE will make it. Only a number equal to the stars in the sky and the grains of sand on the beach. but they sure as Hell (and I mean that theologically correctly, not to be vulgar) won't make it without being saved by faith in Jesus.

"What gets subtly taught is that Jesus rescues you from God."

No, what is BLATANTLY taught is that God rescues you from God. You're saved from His just wrath through His gracious gift.

Bell is the one being subtle. Just like the serpent. He twists the truth to make his other lies sound reasonable by comparison.

1 Thessalonians 1:9-10
"For they themselves report about us what kind of a reception we had with you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come."

By God's sovereignty, I happened to be reading in Jeremiah this very evening (shortly after I read the above post):

"Thus says the LORD of hosts: 'Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD. They say continually to those who despise the word of the LORD, "It shall be well with you"; and to everyone who stubbornly follows his own heart, they say, "No disaster will come upon you."'" Jeremiah 23:16-17

Uncanny.

An Open Letter to Justin Taylor Regarding His Condemnation of Rob Bell
http://bit.ly/fLawpU

Mr. Clark,

Do you need to see more than the trailer of a porn movie to know that it's foul, corrupt, dangerous garbage?

Kamilla,

The fellow who called John Piper "flippant" doesn't get him at all. People who know Mr. Piper's voice will hear a genuinely grieving tone in his brief comment.

Wow, Mr. Bell. You're so deep, so mystical.

Fear of Hell. Fear of Eternal Punishment. Fear of God's rebuke. FEAR, FEAR, FEAR. It seems to me anyone living in a constant state of fear is already in Hell.

Jim,

"The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom,

And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.

For by me your days will be multiplied,

And years of life will be added to you.

If you are wise, you are wise for yourself,

And if you scoff, you alone will bear it." (Proverbs 9:10-12)

Those who fear HIM don't need to fear Hell, eternal punishment or rebuke. Perfect love casts out all of that kind of fear. (1 John 4:18)

Mr. Clark,

please see a short response on why Justin Taylor's blog wasn't jumping the gun: http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2011/02/did-justin-taylor-jump-gun.html

"Presumably, then, the reason Bell’s publisher sent Justin this material in the first place was to garner a high-profile recommendation. Something to juice sales or preorders.

Assuming that’s the case, it’s passing hard to see how he did anything untoward by offering his admittedly provisional judgment of the book.

If it turns out that he misjudged the book, that’s the fault of the publisher for sending him misleading material on which to form a preliminary assessment."

Well said, Gloria.

A growing concern of mine is the desire to "reboot" the conversation when it is online. There is no sense of history at all. The rebuttal to condemnation to Rob Bell seems to boil down to: "Let the man talk!". Those defending Rob Bell seem to want to ignore everything he has said before and take this as a completely separate incident. Those that are condemning him are not taking this single statement in a vacuum, but - like Pastor Bayly - can reference past statements as well. These discussions have momentum, and have history that can often be related to past error. We ignore this at our peril.

Bullhorn guy tells you all you need to know.

He is so censorious of other Christians. Yet, he is supposed to be granted a big pass.

He is so tragically, tragically hip.

Overcoming my aversion to YouTube, and.....ugh.....methinks Gandhi's aversion to Christ is pretty well known.

And praise God for "Bullwhip Guy" (linked elsewhere on this site).....that part of the Gospels comes to mind whenever I hear someone telling the world that He would have us never be angry.

I do not normally see another Jim posting here, so just to set the record straight: post number 12 was not written by me.

Respectfully,
Jim Hogue

Thanks men!

THAT is exactly what i thought when i read the open letter! i have decided to NOT see movies based on what i have seen in a short trailer, and Bell makes his stand VERY clear in his "trailer". SPOT ON!!

This is an interesting event in the evangelical church today. Many are up in arms over Rob Bell's yet to be released book.

I'm wondering why the church is so excited? Maybe because the sheep haven't had clear teaching on the subjects of hell, God's judgment and the need to live holy lives in most (as in the vast majority) evangelical churches?

If the sheep were well grounded in solid doctrine, then maybe we wouldn't have such overwhelming concern.

I for one am thankful that the Lord is using this to cause many to utter the words "Hell" and "God's judgment" when they normally seem allergic to such words, even as "keepers" of orthodoxy.

The prayer is that this will not just be a blip on the blogosphere but help many to rethink studying who God really is and what He really thinks of sin. Then we might really appreciate His wonderful grace.

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