The Cordyceps fungi declare the glory of God...

(Tim) Ben passed along this clip from the BBC's "Planet Earth," and comments: "This is crazy. The second half is.... something else. I keep thinking how science-fiction can never rival the alien-ness of God's own creation."

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How could this fungi exist before the fall? It's certainly part of creation, just like the computer I'm typing on, and gives glory to God. But I still puzzle over a pre-lapsarian world with zombifying fungi.

"How could this fungi exist before the fall?"

Who says they did? And why should God's creative activity terminate at the Fall?

Well, Fr. Bill, I take it that when God "rested" he ceased his creative activity. This isn't to say that God has stopped creating, period, but He did stop creating ex nihilo, I think. But I'm not really sure. Did he rest and then start again?

Well, there was that water and wine thing Jesus did. Seems the end product had a number of things in it that simply were not "there" when he started with jugs of water.

In other words, it wasn't simply a matter or rearranging stuff already in the jugs.

This is my thought: our thoughts are mere minuscule jolts of energy, and it is so minute that we could just wonder and wander at how vast God's knowledge can be, when we consider the innumerable variations of each and every created thing. Surely, our thoughts can never measure up. God when He created, did so in 6 days, the 7th resting from all his feat. In a way, He created a whole 'engine' and it worked perfectly well upon day one. When sin entered, then it was faced with a different challenge. I suppose that the 'thorn' in everything can be viewed as the way that the whole of creation groans for the soon return of the Maker, Jesus Christ, God incarnate, the One who upholds ALL THINGS by the Word of His power.
Our observations of many things and their conclusions can be mere speculations at most in my view.
What really matters is why these things are the way they are, and how these will be made anew One Day,
when God will make a new heaven & a new earth.

Perhaps you could call it the beauty of God's judgment.

Regarding fungi before the Fall, I would have to assume that there was what we would call "death of plants" prior to the Fall, else how could Adam, Eve, and the animals have eaten anything? Does not an orange die, in a matter of speaking, when you pick and eat it? And yet the Hebrew notion of "death" at the time certainly does not include the death of plants; it is the death of animals that entered the world through the Fall, I think.

In the same way, plants prior to the Fall needed some organic material in the soil in which fungi could grow as well, no? Otherwise we would find ourselves in a situation where the plants would have had nothing to hold water around their roots.

So while Bill may be correct that creation continued after creation week, I'm not sure that is necessary for fungi prior to the Fall.

Bike Bubba - good point. I still hold out questions about crocodiles and great white sharks and dinosaurs, but I think you're right on the fungi.

Mr. Archer - with all humor, my friend, if you said anything that contained any meaning whatsoever, I'm not aware of it. It's a nice poem, I suppose! :)

"Regarding fungi before the Fall, I would have to assume that there was what we would call "death of plants" prior to the Fall, else how could Adam, Eve, and the animals have eaten anything?"

But we shouldn't make such assumptions about the world before sin. We know this about That Day when our Lord returns:

"And the wolf will dwell with the lamb,
And the leopard will lie down with the young goat,
And the calf and the young lion and the fatling together;
And a little boy will lead them.
Also the cow and the bear will graze,
Their young will lie down together,
And the lion will eat straw like the ox.
The nursing child will play by the hole of the cobra,
And the weaned child will put his hand on the viper's den."
- Isaiah 11:6-8 NASB

(It's not too much of a stretch to think the original creation matched what the final restoration will be pretty closely, is it?)

My guess is the fungus was around before the Fall, but that eating ant brains came as a result of the Fall.

And I think fruit or grass being given as food must be in a different category than decay and death.

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