Obama supporters claiming to be "pro-life" were never, really, opposed to abortion...

(Tim, from LifeSiteNews.com) Prior to the election, I found those who called themselves "pro-life" while shilling for Senator Barack Obama to be morally repugnant. Now, these hypocrites have had more than enough opportunities publicly to acknowledge their mistake; they've had weeks to cry "foul" or "I was misled by Senator Obama's lies concerning abortion;" yet they are silent.

Where are their protests? Where are they denouncing the aggressive promotion of abortion, internationally, that President Obama has given himself to since taking office at the White House? Where have the voices of Brian McLaren and Tony Campolo been raised in protest of President Obama's advocacy of child-slaughter? And turning to McLaren's and Campolo's useful simpletons, do any of them feel just the least bit betrayed and ashamed of their naivete?

It would be hard to prove, but I'm convinced that many of those who supported Senator Obama's presidential aspirations while claiming, themselves, to be Christian and pro-life were not pro-life at all, but rather, themselves often had had one or more abortions (or helped others to get one) and voted for Senator Obama as a coping mechanism employed to silence their conscience. And I do not say this from any anger at President Obama being elected to our nations highest elected office. Rather, it's my own personal observation.

Well, again, when guilt and complicity have silenced Emerjellicals, Rome speaks.

Here's Roman Catholic leadership that I, a Protestant Presbyterian pastor, agree with entirely..

A leading Catholic archbishop is calling a fraud President Barack Obama's claims that he will lead efforts to reduce abortions. During a trip to Ireland, Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver said merely wanting to reduce abortions as opposed to ending the practice entirely is not pro-life.

Chaput said Obama's recent move to send taxpayer dollars to other nations for pro-abortion groups to spend to promote and perform abortions violated his abortion reduction promise.

“His reason for signing the executive order was that it was time to put this ‘divisive issue behind us,’ once and for all,” Chaput said.

“There's something a little odd about rhetoric that tells that we're the ‘divisive’ ones, and lectures adult citizens about what we should challenge, and when we should stop. In a democracy, we get to decide that for ourselves," he said.

“An issue that involves the life and death of unborn children and the subversion of entire traditional societies can't be ‘put behind us’ with an executive signature," Chaput added.

He talked about groups like Catholic for the Common Good, Third Way, and others that provided cover for Obama's pro-abortion positions during the election.

“During the last U.S. election, we saw the emergence of so-called pro-life organizations that argued we should stop fighting the legal struggle over abortion. Instead we should join with ‘pro-choice’ supporters to seek ‘common ground,'" he explained.

“Their argument was simple: Why fight a losing battle on the legal, cultural and moral front since - according to them -- we haven't yet made serious progress in ending legalized abortion?" he continued. "Let's drop the ‘divisive’ political battle, they said, and instead let's all work together to tackle the economic and health issues that might eventually reduce abortions."

But Chaput said that argument wasn't acceptable for opponents of slavery, wasn't acceptable to opponents of racism and shouldn't be alright with pro-life advocates.

“Did Americans take a gradual, social-improvement road to ‘reducing’ racism? No. We passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964,” he said.

“Nor have I ever heard anyone suggest that the best way to deal with murder, rape or domestic abuse is to improve the availability of health care and job training. We make rape illegal -- even though we know it will still sometimes tragically occur -- because rape is gravely evil. It's an act of violence, and the law should proscribe it," he said.

“Of course, we also have a duty to improve the social conditions that can breed domestic and sexual violence. But that doesn't change the need for the law," Chaput added. “Likewise, if we really believe that abortion is an intimate act of violence, then we can't aim at anything less than ending abortion."

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This isn't the first time Chaput has been a bold witness in this area.

It is bold men like Abp Chaput who make Roman Caholicism look so attractive around here.

Kamilla

“Their argument was simple: Why fight a losing battle on the legal, cultural and moral front since - according to them -- we haven't yet made serious progress in ending legalized abortion?" he continued. "Let's drop the ‘divisive’ political battle, they said, and instead let's all work together to tackle the economic and health issues that might eventually reduce abortions."

Reminds me of Giant Despair's counsel to Christian and Hopeful:

"The next night [Diffidence] was talking with her Husband about them further, and understanding that they were yet alive, did advise him to counsel them to make away themselves. So when morning was come, he goes to them in a surly manner as before, and perceiving them to be very sore with the stripes that he had given them the day before, he told them, that since they were never like to come out of that place, their only way would be forthwith to make an end of themselves, either with Knife, Halter, or Poison; For why, said he, should you chuse life, seeing it is attended with so much bitterness?"

Such "come, let us unreason together" will peel off those who love their own lives, comfort, reputation and fashion more than Truth.

“Nor have I ever heard anyone suggest that the best way to deal with murder, rape or domestic abuse is to improve the availability of health care and job training."

I have. It's [Twighlight Zone music] bizarre.

Let us continue in sin that grace may abound.

As much as I disagree with Catholic church teachings, I do respect many bishops bold stands on pro-life issues. If they could only go a step further and REALLY GET SERIOUS by denying communion and church membership to Pelosi and Kennedy and all other catholic politicians that support abortion. Change or get out. No communion for you. Can't pick and choose what you believe in our church". Now that would be great

>If they could only go a step further and REALLY GET SERIOUS by denying communion

A couple of bishops have broached that subject but they aren't the bishops for the criminals in question.

Tim Bayly: "Prior to the election, I found those who called themselves "pro-life" while shilling for Senator Barack Obama to be morally repugnant. Now, these hypocrites have had more than enough opportunities publicly to acknowledge their mistake..."

Agreed. (With respect to this particular matter) these knowledgeable voters for Obama are not good Christians.

WRT to the title of this post, "Obama supporters claiming to be "pro-life" were never, really, opposed to abortion..."

My husband recently read an article on this subject in the latest issue of the National Review, so you might find another slant on the subject there. I will read it, but FWIW, I'm well-educated and I keep up with the news (local paper, news magazines, reputable web sites), but the idea of me reading the National Review seems about as incongruous as my husband reading Midwest Living or a mag from the Commies.

--Sue

Tim,

It is sooooo.....comforting, to find other Christians who believe the way I do about abortion. I grow weary of, and actually - I am horrified at, the (seemingly) growing number of PCA members, including TEs, who refuse to broach the subject of the immorality of abortion out of fear it may hurt their evangelization efforts. How can any Christian Pastor argue for any framework of morality within or without the Church, when he ignores the murder of the least of these, infants and gestating babies.

If you are ever in Nashville, let's hook up.

>If you are ever in Nashville, let's hook up...

Dear Bill,

Sure, but now that Doug and Heather no longer live there and Joseph's done with Vandy, it may be a while. If you're ever up this way, though, stop in.

And by the way, what's your name?

Smiling,

Bill,

I (Doug of the above Doug and Heather) am still there constantly. I will be there this coming week in fact. Send me an e-mail if you are interested in lunch sometime. doug dot ummel at southwestern dot com.

Tim,
Shoot me an email and I'll send my contact info (I can't find your email address on this site).

Doug,
Sure, let's have lunch sometime. I'll send you an email.

wow! i am shocked at the hate towards other believers that might not agree with you guys.

i know the that jesus taught LOVE as the greatest

command. Do you guys understand that there are more issues than JUST abortion? To comment on someones faith or christianity based on how they voted seems odd. love (for all) in christ!

>i know the that jesus taught LOVE as the greatest
command

If you think love means anything other than telling the truth towards those willfully and openly engaging in grotesque and flagrant sin then I suggest you don't know what love means.

>wow! i am shocked at the hate towards other believers that might not agree with you guys.
i know the that jesus taught LOVE as the greatest
command. Do you guys understand that there are more issues than JUST abortion? To comment on someones faith or christianity based on how they voted seems odd. love (for all) in christ!<

Mmmm... to comment based on visible fruit vs invisible claims to faith would seem...consistent with Christ's command "judge with righteous judgment" maybe?

I can also hear the words spoken in 1938:

"Besides, there are more issues other than the status of the Jews to consider when thinking about supporting the Fuhrer"...

Hi Luke,

I am new to reading this blog, but nothing in the post nor the comments would indicate a *hatred* of other believers. I would also ask you to make the case from the bible, that *believers* can support the pro-choice, pro-abortion position. Can you make this case?

Also, you there is a hidden premise that needs to be exposed. You wrote:

"Do you guys understand that there are more issues than JUST abortion?"

Luke, do you understand that some issues are more important than others? The hidden premise is that abortion is just one issue among many others. Is there a qualitative difference between various issues? Is the wholesale slaughter of unborn babies really no different than any other social issue?

You would do well to think through your comments before simply offering a groundless ad hominem.

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