Who's righteous--Al Qaeda or the U.S.?

By any Christian and biblical, as opposed to nationalistic, evaluation of the righteousness of the United States in her conflict with middle eastern nations, we must not stoop to using the hypocritical criteria of a patriot who says, "My nation, right or wrong." As Christians we are different, called by God to "judge rightly." And a righteous judgment of our nation must start, not with others' sins against us, but ours against a holy God.

It's always easier to point a finger outside our home, community, or nation and to cry out against others' sins, but judgment must begin locally, and move out from there. This is the meaning of Jesus' statement about splinters and beams--we are to correct ourselves before we correct others.

As Christian citizens, then, we must look long and hard at our own nation when we consider the justice of our claims against Iran, Iraq, or Al Qaeda. As the Apostle Paul says:

Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. And we know that the judgment of God rightly falls upon those who practice such things. But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? (Romans 2:1-4)

So when Christians cry down the wickedness of other nations and rulers without any mention of our own wickedness, I read it as nationalism uninformed by Scripture. And that's bad. Christians are not to judge their own and other nations as if the relations between nations are only a matter of who did what to whom on the international level.

When we want to condemn some combination of mid-east forces for bombing the World Trade Center and the Pentagon...

Christians should immediately think of the 1,300,000 unborn children who are killed each year, like clockwork, just down the street from each of us by our own roommates, colleagues, sons, daughters, and wives. Christians should immediately think of the pornography that the United States spews across the air waves of the world as one of her largest exports. Christians should think about our nation's materialism and the many dictators we have supported around the world as a means of stabilizing the world economy and a balance of power favorable to our continued hegemony.

Christians thinking in this way will then stop and consider that, whereas many other nations have operated largely in ignorance never having had the Gospel ministry of Jonathan Edwards to feed upon, for instance, we have no excuse. Our Lord warned, "To whom much is given, much shall be required," and we have been given much in every way--particularly spiritually. Thus, even if we could establish (which I don't think we can) that the United States has been guilty of a significantly smaller amount of evil than mid-eastern nations, the Christian radio stations, the churches on every corner, and our shelves weighed down with Bibles condemn us far more than those who have lived their lives under the darkness of Islam, never knowing the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

And let me say it clearly: God's plan for Israel doesn't trump all other considerations. If I speak up for justice toward Jews and Israel in the mid-east but fail to speak up for justice for the forgotten old and feeble residents who live in our county nursing home down the street, God doesn't overlook the second failure because of the first success. Again, the call of duty starts at home--not across the world. And this is without even engaging the difficult question of the Christian's responsibility to Jewish Israelis as compared to Christian Palestinians.

Now, a few clarifications. I love the United States and sang the National Anthem with gusto when IU's soccer team played the Mexican National Youth Team this past Tuesday. Last summer upon our return from three weeks in Zambia, Rwanda, England, and Hungary, our family was filled with thanksgiving to the Lord for His allowing us to live in this nation. So don't accuse me of being a liberal commie who hates his country. If working to judge rightly means hating the thing or person one is judging, then I hate myself, my wife, my sons and daughters, my sons-in-law, my grandchildren, my mother and father and sister and brother, my in-laws and city and alma mater--even my church. But, in fact, I love each of them and am convinced that it's really the one who says, "My wife or son or church or denomination or seminary or alma mater or city or state or country, right or wrong," who has no love for any of them. The sort of patriotism that keeps count of all the crimes against our nation by others, while refusing to look for, or see, those of our nation against others is a willful ignorance that is unworthy of the man of God. Such patriotism is, as Johnson put it, "the last refuge of a scoundrel."

But beyond loving the United States, if we take our foreign policy alone (forgetting our other areas of moral accountability), I'm not ashamed to be an American. I believe we have done much bad, but much more good around the world. And compared to the vast majority of nations across history, we have stood out as frequently having goals that have bordered on, and sometimes reached, altruism. Both as a nation and as Christians who are Americans, we really do feed the hungry, clothe the naked, nurse the sick, defend the oppressed, and most importantly, preach the Gospel.

But before someone gets confused and thinks I'm finally mounting my white stallion of America first sentiment, stop and remember our nation's murder of her own unborn children at the rate of 1.3 million, like clockwork, each year. Then think of our greed, our sexual depravity, our pride, our lack of respect for our elders and the feeble, our decadent educational institutions, our rebelliousness against all authority, and immediately our feet are brought back to the ground.

As Americans, we may plead for God's mercy toward us, but we may not claim we deserve it. In his Second Inaugural Address, Abraham Lincoln quite rightly reminded a nation at war that every man ought to tremble remembering that "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."

Comments

It seems to me that our government's legitimate determination to avenge the murder of 3,000 of our people -- and yes, I consider legal, measured "vengeance" to be one of the legitimate functions of government -- and our decision to drive as many stakes into the heart of terrorist Islam as we can, needs to be united with a call for repentance by the Commander in Chief to the population. I've heard no such call. Even Lincoln, who was hardly an evangelical at that point in his life, and in addition was not exactly what you'd call a rigid Constitutionalist, knew enough about God to call on the nation to make right with God. I've never heard George W. Bush say any such things. Jerry Falwell got attacked for saying out loud that 9/11 was an act of divine punishment against the U.S. for our sins. It was unfortunate that he recanted under pressure. Everyone mouths the words, "God bless America", but is America blessable? Salvation may be by grace, but there are a host of other temporal blessings that must be earned by means of the fear of God. The government is doing the right thing by attacking militant Islam right in the throat, but failing to call on our nation to repent and pray is a serious sin of omission. newcovenantliving @ blogspot

Well put, Tim.

Tim, I don't think the abortion issue is relevant when discussing our policies with countries like Iran. Respectfully, Bill K.

Bill, Let's put it this way. The jihad against the West (if you include 9/11, the Iraq/Afghanistan wars, the Intifada) has claimed lives in the thousands. But the U.S. is an even larger threat to the lives of innocents since we kill around 3,500 every DAY in abortions. I don't think Tim is saying that we should fold our hands in the face of a nuclear Iran or any other jihad-loving nation and try putting roses into their gun barrels. But as prophetic voices to our generation, Christians should be decrying the bloodguilt of our nation as much as the next.

David, I understand and agree. However, I think there is a difference. America is not performing abortions in the name of God. Muslim nations however ARE calling for our destruction in the name of God. The amount of abortions while staggering, still are only a small representation of the whole of America and its values. The ones who should be judged by God for abortions are those who are involved and the judges who uphold the laws supporting it. Not the average American who doesn't have the legal power to ultimately stop it. Anyway, I just think the abortion issue is a completely seperate issue. Respectfully, Bill K.

Bill, With all due respect, bringing up the issue of abortion when discussing the moral authority of countries could not be more relevant to this discussion. It is, in fact, central to the issue. And America IS performing abortions in the name of her god. Our god is just named, "Convenience and Prosperity," instead of "Allah." It is a false god, just as is Allah. Don't fool yourself into thinking that it is not idol worship in the same manner and deserving of the same judgement by God. Again, (and again) NO ONE is saying that we should not go after Militant Islam and bring them to justice (in fact, it has been said here that we should.) However, what IS being said here is that when we as a country or as individuals begin to exert moral authority or judgement over another country or individual, our gaze should turn humbly inward. We should stand before God with an attitude of "forgive us our great sin," in concert with our seeking to apply the moral law of Scripture into our world. Respectfully under the blood of our Risen Savior, Archie

Archie, I realize that noone is saying we should stand by as militant islam terrorizes the world. I really just don't see how abortion gets thrown into a discussion about Iran. I understand what you guys are saying, I just think we're really stretching to make abortion an issue in the realm of judging other countries. America, like any country, is full of sin. If its not abortion, we have a million other sins as a nation we are committing. Why choose abortion out of all our sins to throw into our foreign policy dilemmas? The issue is complex enough let alone add abortion into it. If we hesitate to act (we've already waited to long, Iran has enriched uranium, thus reaching the point of no return) because we don't see ourselves as worthy through God's eyes, then we will most likely be an Islamic state ourselves before we know it. If we make abortion illegal, will God then give us the green light to deal with or judge Iran? Or, will He then require us to deal with whatever sin we deem as the second worst sin, then the third, and so on. In Christ, Bill

I highly reccommend reading the book Jerusalem Countdown by Pastor John Hagee. Regardless of differences in theology that I'm sure many have with him, its a very comprhensive look at the past, present, and future roles Iran and other nations play in the future of America and Israel.

One problem with the analogy: al Qaeda is not a nation or country. Al Qaeda is not the magistrate of Romans 13 or 1 Peter who is owed a measure of obedience even when doing evil. It is simply a force of bandits or pirates that is owed nothing by any one. Now if you compared the USA as a nation to the nation of Iran or China or Congo (for examples), then your basic insight would work.

Bill, here's the real problem: Abortion is an issue of justice. The murder of 1.3 million children annually under the pretext of law is possibly the most sick and wicked injustice in the history of the world. We're making the Holocaust look like child's play. The existence of abortion in America proclaims loudly and obviously everything that is at the core of our values: convenience, peace, and safety. The fact that people kill their babies says that we love convenience, love death, and hate God. The fact that the vast remainder of people remain silent and passive says that we love convenience, don't give a rip about human life, despise confrontation, and hate righteousness. And for the purposes of this discussion, the most important issue is that the fact that we can passively permit the state sanctioned murder of children says that we hate justice. So then, how can a nation that hates justice presume to have any moral authority to judge other nations when the sole basis of its own authority is upholding the divine mandate to bear the sword and to pursue justice- to protect and help the helpless and defenseless and to punish the wicked? Can you really tell me that what we pursue abroad is justice? If we pursued justice and loved it we would pursue it here and now. It would not be neglected. If a minister of the gospel relegates his Christianity to his public office and it does not permeate his heart and his house, his house will fall apart, and he will be judged and exposed as a fake and a hypocrite. Likewise, if a minister of the sword relegates his sword-bearing to his public interaction and does not see to his own house, he will be exposed and both his office and his house will fall. It is only a shell- a facade- and time will expose its shifty foundation. We must take heed that our pursuit of justice abroad is not merely a means to placate our guilty consciences and feel better about ourselves by engaging in issues that are far, far away. We must take heed that what we really pursue abroad is not only the protection of our own interests, namely our security and peace, but the genuine interests of others. For example, we speak of liberating the Muslim woman from her oppresively modest Burka while we pump the multi-million dollar pornography industry across the globe and clearly communicate to the whole world that women are only to be valued for their bodies. Hypocrisy. The only way to overcome this hypocrisy is for our love and pursuit of justice to be real and genuine. The only way this will ever happen is if individuals- leaders and citizens alike- are converted and become followers of Jesus Christ. And if this happens, this will mean that abortion goes out the window. So here's the tension: Our nation has a divine mandate to pursue justice. It is failing right here at home. That does not mean that it should fail to pursue justice abroad. It does not mean that it should refuse to protect us until all internal matters are resolved either, nor our interests. But it has forgotten the weightier matter. It is God we must fear, not Iran. So we must repent and cry and beg and plead for mercy. We must love God. We must love people. We must love justice. And we must see to the internal issues without neglecting the external ones.

Excellent point Jake, "It is God we must fear, not Iran". This is the crux. Bill, abortion is not the issue that is being raised, the great sin of our Nation is (abortion is simply the most glaringly evil of these sins). Imagine Nineveh preparing for war and disregarding the prophet. Don't fear Iran, we will not let them attack us first, but you should fear God. His wrath will not be stopped by Tactical "Bunker-Buster" Nuclear Weapons.

Jacob, That's what I said, diddle di? Well put. Thanks.

lol, sorry Archie. I guess at some point in the wee hours of the morning I thought I had something to add to the conversation. I was pretty tired (still am), so my apologies if I put too fine of a point on it. From the looks of it it appears I might have just thought you were too efficient in your use of words. I was merely expounding, really ;) Goodness. Bill, I also realize this morning that saying "Here's the real issue" might have come across as disrespectful. Showing disrespect was the last thing I intended to do. I'm sorry if I come across that way. In adding to what Archie was saying I was just trying to get at the heart of the matter.

Excellent post Tim. Romans 3:10-12

Jacob, I was honestly thanking you. Your expansion was perfect and said much more eloquently what I was stumbling through. Thanks again.

Jacob, I didn't think you were being disrespectful. I appreciate all opinions posted here. Also, learning what other christians think helps me to gauge if my own opinions are consistent with other believers or if they are to worldly.

One thing stood out to me in this conversation. While down in Florida protesting the murder of Terri Schiavo, I was taught wonderfully by Dave Curell. He pointed out to me that it was our responsibility to repent of the sin which caused her death. It is always my temptation to say that abortion, euthanasia, pornography, each is somebody else's fault--the one who can stop it. The truth is that the buck stops here. I cannot blame "government." Who am I blaming in particular? Will I judge the members of the Supreme court that legalized abortion? Are they the ones? When asked by God, don't you think they also would point the finger? Blame the lawyers that tricked them, lied to them? No. I will not take Adam's course of action and point the finger at Eve. When God asks me if I loved the helpless, I won't say, "Well no. But, if you hadn't made the bad people that killed them I wouldn't have had to bother!" Lord forgive me for not loving the orphans and widows, the helpless, the innocent, the dirty, smelly beggars, the desperate, the sinners such as I. Forgive me for the death of Terri and the little babies that were murdered this week at abortuaries across the country. Forgive me for harming the souls of men and women around the world involved in the sin of pornography. I repent. Please forgive me. I am weak. Help me and help our nation. Amen.

Joseph, Thank you for posting this. It is a shame that it is buried in the comments. Care to put a more thorough expansion of it up on the main page?

WACO, TEXAS, March 8, WTN--The Ayatollah of Iran, speaking to an overflow crowd of nearly 5,000 applauding patriots at a meeting of the American Iran Public Affairs Committee, used blunt language that seemed to hint of military action or possibly the overthrow of the government in Washington D.C., though he mentioned neither option explicitly. "For our part, Iran is keeping all options on the table in addressing the irresponsible conduct of the Bush regime," he said. "And we join other nations in sending that regime a clear message: We will not allow the US government to continue to build and proliferate more weapons of mass destruction. As President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has stated, the Middle East must be declared a nuclear-free zone, beginning with the dismantling of Israel's arsenal of weapons of mass destruction." The Ayatollah told the cheering crowd, which included survivors of the US government holocaust on a Waco church, "Of all the nations on our planet, none has less to fear from any military threat than America, which is surrounded by a vast ocean to the east and west, and thoroughly impotent neighbors on the north and south. "Yet this fabulously powerful and wealthy country also has the most paranoid government on earth, brimming with nuclear, biological and chemical weapons to crush every imagined threat from anywhere in the world. This same paranoid government has repeatedly waged aggressive wars against countries which meant it no harm. The US government has committed the most heinous and cowardly atrocities in Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki and on a smaller but no less criminal scale, on a church full of children here in Waco, Texas. "Meanwhile, it insists on holding everyone else accountable. The Bush regime is a government of nuclear-armed paranoids, hypocrites and rabbi-worshippers; the whole world, not just the Muslim and Arab nations, should shudder, and must work for regime change in Washington." The Ayatollah concluded, "Iran supports the democratic aspirations of the people of the US, and the removal of its current fanatical neo-con Bush-Cheney regime." Iranian officials stated that the Ayatollah had recently promoted a drive to bring American patriots and students to Iran, blanket the US with English-language Iranian radio and television broadcasts, and support American political dissidents. The Iranian administration recently announced it would ask the Iranian legislature to boost 2006 funding for US-related pro-reform initiatives from $10 million to $85 million.The $85 million program will be overseen by an Iranian woman, a deputy assistant minister of state for North American affairs, who is also the Ayatollah's daughter. The money is intended to be given to American patriots for reform of corporate war profiteers, removal of corrupt judges, reform of the IRS and a return to Biblically-based, non-usurious banking and credit unions.

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